Seeking God Outside of the Tradition

October, 2008

I’ve spent my last twenty-two years, out of fifty-eight, as a believer in God and his son. Before this I had been devoid of faith and a hater of God and his people. I spent fifteen of these twenty-two years attending a non-denominational church, which emphasized an intellectual approach to the bible and God: expressing beliefs in an emotional way was frowned upon and therefore, this whole, religious experience had become uninspiring and unappealing. Over the past eight years, a brother and I have sought to experience God, His truth and fellowship and without being tied to any religious institution. This has been a difficult experience for both of us, and, more than once, we’ve questioned our decision to strike out on our own. We’ve also sought others who had left the church in hopes that we could share our journey with them, but this has only led to failure and disappointment. However, the result of this journey has been an opening of our eyes, in so many ways, to see the fallacies about God that the church promotes. I wish to share a little of this journey, but I am not trying to save anyone, since I believe Jesus already accomplished that and doesn’t need my help!

I have become increasingly frustrated, over the past few years, as I have attempted to connect with other believers. I am an American, so my experience is with the American church: I am not speaking for or about the Christian church in other countries. This is part of the problem I see with the Christian religion: I don’t believe we should be divided by borders and denominations in our beliefs. I have written other posts about religion, but they were my opinions on man’s religion as a whole, and I really don’t want to rehash all of that. What I want to write about here is my personal struggle with the Christian religion and Christians in general, and I am not condemning anyone.

I have tried, for years, to understand why Christians are so divided in their beliefs, since Jesus painted a picture of unity to his disciples. Jesus, did say that he came to “divide…,” but he was referring to Hebrews, which he had come to rescue from their oppressive and hypocritical, religious leaders and dogma. Jesus, knew his life, message and sacrifice would put an end to the Temple worship and sacrifice, which was, for all intents and purposes, the religion of Isreal in Jesus’ day. Jesus, openly spoke against the Pharisees and their religious ways, which kept the Hebrew people in bondage to the fear of God and man. With his disciples, on the other hand, Jesus spoke of many things beyond division: including love, unity and service to others, and he frowned on their desire to have a higher status, spiritually. Jesus, allowed his disciples into the inner-circle, if you will , where they were given a glimpse of God and himself: all twelve were instructed by Jesus at a personal level, and three, in particular, Peter, John and James, were present at his “transfiguration.” All of his disciples would desert him, during his trial and crucifixion, and Jesus knew, as well as understood, this would happen. When Jesus appeared to the eleven, after his resurrection, he simply told them to share what they had learned with others, which included the “abundant life” he had exposed to them.

Jesus’ emphasis was on a personal relationship with God, which, in turn, would then draw like-minded people together, “fellowship:” he never said anything about congregations, expensive cathedrals, denominations, political activism, human rules and regulations (Man’s attempt to make himself righteous in God’s eyes) or ministers and popes. Jesus’ statement to Peter, “I’ll build my ecclesia on this rock,” simply meant that this new understanding of himself and God would establish the “way” for all people to live in peace with God: “It is finished,” or in other words, it is complete in me, the Christ, and my “way” of truth and life is for all of humanity and with no strings attached. Jesus’ message of faith, a personal God, love and life was this “rock,” or foundation, of the new “way” for mankind to relate to God, and Peter had simply understood this message first. Gone were the sacrifices and fear of failure, “sin.” Gone was the need for a “man to teach his neighbor about God.” Through Jesus, “God placed his truth on our minds and wrote them on our hearts.” As Jesus predicted, the helper, or Spirit, was sent to dwell in all mankind whether they’re aware of it or not.

Today, Jesus, as well as his sacrifice and “way,” has been divided up into hundreds of factions, or denominations, which, except for the use of his name, share almost nothing in common. As I write, Christians continue to divide in their beliefs, as I have witnessed while reading religion blogs just recently. A new form of Christianity seems to be invented every other day, and this new form will, as always, only take away from Jesus’ sacrifice and message. The life that was exhibited by Jesus and his disciples has been lost in the book and churches, which claim to represent him, and many of us who have escaped the major denominations have simply turned around and started a new version of that old system. Constantly doing something over and over again, in the same way, and always getting the same result is considered to be the definition of insanity. Denominations will claim that they exist to save humanity for God, and yet the book they adhere to never, in a clear way, makes that claim. Christians are divided, because they have been raised in a religious system that isn’t much different from the one Jesus came to “fulfill:” Christians still have the temple and priests, and they sacrifice their sins, which hold them in bondage, to a man-made set of rules and regulations: these rules and regulations are no different, in their affect on people, than the “oral tradition” laws of the Pharisees.

My brother and I have longed for fellowship for almost nine years, but it appears that few share our views. So we’re faced with continuing our path or reverting back and trying to exist in a religious framework that we sense is horribly mistaken. Our journey, so far, hasn’t been about being right or different, it has been about seeking God and those he’d have us share our path with.


6 Responses to “Seeking God…”


  1. 1 ned batch
    January 23, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    I’ve been a non-denominational christian for thirty plus years and agree it can get lonely. I look forward to your e-mails. Ned Batch

  2. 2 DB Williams
    January 24, 2010 at 1:06 am

    Ned,

    Thanks for stopping by!

  3. February 23, 2010 at 1:06 am

    Hello there

    I read your writings, and realized that your spirit is searching for the truth only.
    But I pity your situation. You see, the Lord God through Jesus Christ built the Church.
    (Matthew 16:18)
    “…upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”

    If you will neglect that, you are neglecting what God hath done.

    You’re right about your impression in the numerous churches today, they are pretenders
    (Titus 1:16)
    “They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.”

    But you see, God will NEVER allow that evil be triumphant, God will not forsake the people.
    (1 John 4:1)
    Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

    God is a Just God. He is Good in all generations.
    If there are spirits that are NOT of God, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A SPIRIT/PROPHET THAT IS OF GOD.
    Do you believe that?
    (Matthew 28:19-20)
    Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always…

    There is a very old spiritual war, the evil lures the mankind with numerous false religions so that they may not enter the genuine “CHURCH OF GOD”.

    By the way, I have not found any citing on the Bible with regard to what you claim as “personal relationship”.

    Rather I found fellowship / Church of God in Christ Jesus the Pillar and Ground of the TRUTH.
    (1 John 1:3)
    that which we have seen and heard declare we unto you also, that ye also may have fellowship with us: yea, and our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ:
    (1 Timothy 3:15)
    but if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how men ought to behave themselves in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

    May I request you and your friend to please reconsider what the Bible is saying.

    There is a TRUE CHURCH OF GOD! and in it are the people of God.

    (Acts 20:28)
    Take heed unto yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit hath made you bishops, to feed the church of the Lord which he purchased with his own blood.

    The Lord Jesus Christ died for the Church.

    I am a member of the Church of God International.

    May the Lord God bless you and your friend.

    in Christ.

    • 4 DB Williams
      February 23, 2010 at 3:39 pm

      Romack,

      While I appreciate your sincerity, I sense that you, like most others at the end of this age, have been taken in by the nominal “church”, the false, and apostate, “church”. This can be observed in the fact that you attend a “church” with a name beyond that of “the Body of Christ”, or “the Bride of Christ”. You also, unfortunately, have been misled in scripture! And just by your response, I can see the error in your comment to me, since, like all other “church” goers (denominations), you claim you have found the “TRUE CHURCH”; just like 1.1 billion Catholics, around the world, who would claim you, and I, are both lost heretics!

      I will not respond to all of your scriptural remarks, since, over the past two years, I have written about these scriptures, over and over again. So if you want to know what I believe, then, before commenting again, read thirty or forty posts to see who I am in Christ, and what He has led me to. I have been led to where I am by the Christ alone, can you make the same claim, Romack? I don’t wish to sound harsh, but everything that you wrote is the typical pablum, and mother’s milk, that comes from the deadness of Christendom, the deadness that is keeping you in a perpetual state of Spiritual immaturity, and, thus, scriptural ignorance. I love you because you are my brother in Christ, but, please, wake up from your “religious” stupor.

      A few questions, Romack:

      1) What is the true Church defined as in the Word of God, what does it look like? (Hint: seek the first three chapters of Acts!)

      2) What was the “ROCK” that Jesus said He would build His Church on?

      3) What does the word church (ecclesia) really mean: is it a big building, or the people?

      4) What were the two designations for human authority (in the Church [ecclesia]) given in the New Testament? Do you know what connotation there is to the word, “bishop”, even though it is just another word for “Elder”? (hint: catholicism)

      5) Do you understand that Jesus the Christ never intended for there to be denominations associated with His Way, Truth and Life, and that He hated human hierarchy, and thus He hated the clergy/laity system, or Nicolaitanism? (Read Revelation 2, and then study and see what the Lord says about “the Nicolaitans! The forerunners to the clergy in the “church” today)

      ‘Yet this you do have, that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. (Revelation 2: 6)

      6) Do you understand that all denominations (factions: read Galatians 5), including yours, are all modeled after pagan Catholicism, and thus the Lord has withdrawn His Spirit from them: not from all of the people, like you, but from the institution itself?

      7) What happens tomorrow, or the next day, if your man-created, and inspired, “church” is taken away from you? Will you be able to continue in the faith, will the Lord Himself be sufficient for you, or do you need other men and women (ministers, pastors, priests, etc) in order to have relationship with the Christ?

      I urge you, Romack, to read the texts I have listed on my “God’s Wisdom” page (above), as well as my posts. Please, come out of the “religious” indoctrination that keeps you in a continual state of Spiritual immaturity: misquoting scripture because the “god of this age” (Satan) is blinding you. Come out and seek the Lord, and His people, and then you will see the error in your nominal “church”, just the way my friends and I have!

      By the way, many of the folks I walked away from, in the nominal “church” I once attended, had been, at one time, members of the “Church of God”. So, if your denomination is all that you claim, then why did these people feel drawn to leave?

      May the Lord Bless and Keep you, and bring you to His Truth!

      P.S.

      I have also removed, from your comment, any material that I consider to be the proselytizing of your dead “church” organization! If you leave comments from this point forward, I will only accept those that don’t pander to your “religious” organization of man.

      Also, is “The Church of God International” a corporation, or an organization, which, like most denominations, dodges the Lord’s command to “Give unto Caesar what is Caesar’s…”, or paying their fair share of taxes, since they are, in reality, a money making endeavor?

  4. March 23, 2010 at 2:36 pm

    On point and on target DB. Good reply!





 

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